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Vinyl Japan v Ebay (to the tune of JB v Dracula)

From: <>
Date: Fri 24 Aug 2001 - 08:35:37 PDT

Just a couple of thoughts on this:

  1. When we pay $80 on ebay for a CD of Scandal/Sex how much of this goes to Pat and the boys? Nothing...
  2. When we pay $15 to Vinyl Japan for a JBC CD how much of this goes to Pat and the boys? Something...

Save your dollars and buy from Vinyl Japan and they will release the rest of the back catalogue. Be satisfied with your vinyl copies for now - all things come to he who waits... like a CD of Hamburg!

Boycott ebay and support the Jazz Butcher Conspiracy!

Just thinking aloud here but someone with copies of the rare cd's can make CDR's, sell them to the list and donate the funds (less costs) to the JBC - but that is illegal so forget I said it...


-----Original Message-----
>From : Mike <>

To : dan bailey <>; de l`abattoir <> Date : 24 August 2001 15:59:19
Subject : Re: Tirade in Support of Vinyl Japan Wow,
>Chastised! Slain! Demonized!
>FEEL BAD AND REPENT - Heathens!!!
>My Heaven's -- I think most people on this list do support the JBC... I
>seen em live 7 times or so -- I once drove 500 miles to see em -- I scoured
>the bins to find the records --- I prophesize to the younger generation
>about the benefits of proper JBC listening habits ---
>I think I'm well invested!!
>And personally...
>I think:
>1. Vinyl Japan should've made those CD's as appealing as possible. Are
>their hands tied?
>2. If this list never “griped“ - these releases would probably not be
>happening. So, if we gripe enough - maybe, eventually we'll get re-releases
>that make more sense.
>I don't read anyone as saying the re-issues are EVIL --- I just hear...
>Damn, after all this time we get something going and it's good - not great.
>> From: dan bailey <>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:33:53 -0500
>> To: de l`abattoir <>
>> Subject: Re: Support Vinyl Japan
>> ummm ... good points all, but having found myself jobless for the 2nd time
>> in 5 months, can i get a raincheck on shelling out bucks for something i've
>> already got on vinyl? for that matter, anyone interested in sending $100 for
>> a video of me listening to my favorite (or *least* favorite, even) jbc
>> tracks?
>> dan
>>> The reissue of “Scandal in Bohemia“ and the other old titles is a
>>> minor miracle, and we should all be thanking the good folks at Vinyl
>>> Japan and buying multiple copies for ourselves, family, friends, and
>>> total strangers.
>>> Instead, people on this list gripe about the fact that Sex & Travel
>>> is not included, or “I'll only buy it if there are sixteen bonus
>>> tracks,“ or that it might cost more than $10 to get one. Unbelievable.
>>> It's like the “Gold Circle“ tour package last year... “gosh, why
>>> should I pay $100 to get two songs on a burned CD... can anyone post
>>> MP3 files?“ instead of “isn't it a bloody miracle that Pat and Max
>>> and the guys have reunited and are busting their butts to tour
>>> America where they'll be lucky to break even. How can I support them
>>> and make them feel like it was worth the effort so they might come
>>> back again sometime.“
>>> Or even the offer to video the Troubador show. We were all so worried
>>> about whether we were getting it cheap enough that we're left with
>>> nothing at all.
>>> I'm all for “fighting the power“ and “sticking it to the man“
>>> whenever possible. Go ahead, sneak in to the theatre to see “Planet
>>> of the Apes“ or burn copies of the new Backstreet Boys CD and litter
>>> your local junior high school with them.
>>> But we're not talking pop culture trash here... we're talking about
>>> supporting an artist whom we all love and respect, who most of us
>>> have had the pleasure of at least meeting, who has brought us huge
>>> amounts of enjoyment over the years. Granted, he is a “professional“
>>> musician and hopefully makes at least a living from his music, but he
>>> also must love doing it to endure all the headaches and neglect and
>>> industry torment that he has faced over the years.
>>> So, now that we have something of a chance to correct history, to
>>> allow Pat to finally collect decent royalties on the songs we've
>>> already enjoyed for years, as fans we should jump at the chance to
>>> pony up and pay our fair share. Vinyl Japan has obviously made a
>>> substantial investment in issuing these discs (because the owners are
>>> apparently huge JBC fans themselves) so we should do our part to
>>> support this decision so that it is feasible for them to do other JBC
>>> reissues as well as new material like “Rotten Soul.“ And who knows,
>>> maybe there will be a “rarities“ collection if we support the current
>>> releases and “Cake City.“ (Yes, another compilation... his stuff is
>>> just that good!)
>>> I guess it comes down to this. If WE don't support these releases, who
>> will?
>>> Then this group will be right back to the old chants of “why doesn't
>>> someone reissue the Glass stuff? I've looked everywhere and can't
>>> find it except on eBay for $80.“
>>> </rant>
>>> By the way, the new Ass Ponys record “Lohio“ is spectacular...get it
>>> at
>> =products&itemnum=73&function=add
>>> Check it out,
>>> Gary

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