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Re: [JBC] live CDRs, a protocol proposal

From: Doug English <dougenglish_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Wed 08 May 2002 - 06:01:44 PDT


Those sound like excellent ground rules. I also have no rare JBC live material, but do have a new CD recorder.

DE

>From: Doc <blueaero@yahoo.com>
>To: Brandon <brandon@discontent.com>, Glen Davis <gdavis@nsi.edu>
>CC: JBC <jbc-list@adjective.com>
>Subject: Re: [JBC] live CDRs, a protocol proposal
>Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi All
>
>I have nil experience with trading trees and no JBC material that hasn't
>already been passed around on this list like the village bike. However, I
>volunteer the services of my creaky Imation CD burner. My rules are:
>
>-"Pat says it's OK to trade this stuff" ONLY.
>-I check each CD I burn to make the recording went OK. It may take an
>extra
>day or two for turnaround.
>-I don't have a printer, so I won't include a cover.
>
>If you can live with this, then I'll be happy to participate.
>
>-Doc
>
>--- Brandon <brandon@discontent.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:13:48AM -0700, Glen Davis wrote:
> >
> > I second this in every way - bandwidth allowing, this seems to be the
>best
> > way for lossless shows to make their way around, coupled of course with
> > a cd-r tree for the bandwidth-impared. :)
> >
> > I also second that, as a late JBC convert (first experience was being
> > dragged to the SF GAMH reunion show in '98) I have missed quite a few
>tours
> > that I'd love to at least get a sense of...
> >
> > B
> >
> > > Apologies to David, the first time I sent this, I just hit reply and
>only
> > > sent it to him.
> > >
> > > I absolutely agree with David here. If at all possible, it is best to
>go
> > > from a digital source like DAT to wave via an optical cable into a
>good
> > > sound card that doesn't resample input (on a computer) or to a cdr
> > recorder.
> > > Maybe we should hold off on starting to trade around cdrs that were
> > mastered
> > > from cassettes. Someday, we all hope, David will be able to 'release
>the
> > > vault' as it were (hopefully as shns), and then we'd all need to start
> > > replacing our cassette generation copies.
> > > I guess I've just be jonesing for some of the older shows and David's
> > > probably the only one who was able to capture those gems on a DAT
>instead
> > of
> > > a walkman held up in the audience.
> > >
> > > Ideally, IMO, what would work best and easiest, is if the best known
>copy
> > > around is converted to shn format (a lossless compression format) and
>then
> > > we could ftp shn files with each other. That way there is no
>generational
> > > loss, everyone has an exact clone of the original (shn files have
>check
> > > sums), and people can do whatever the hell they like with them ...
>i.e.
> > > convert and burn them to cdr or dvdr or play them directly with
>shnamp.
> > > This isn't exactly a new idea, it's exactly what we've been doing with
>jam
> > > band shows (Dead, Phish, Moe, MMW, Dave Mathews, etc.) and Pink Floyd
>shows
> > > for the last several years. Everyone gets a clone where we know
>everything
> > > from what mics, DAT machine, cable, soundcard, editing program, etc.
>to who
> > > taped the show in the first place.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this idea.
> > > Glen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "David Whittemore" <del@adjective.com>
> > > > please, for the love of the music, if you do this, be SURE to
>specify:
> > > >
> > > > generation (master clone, gen 1, gen 2, gen X, unknown)
> > > > processing (dry, EQ, etc)
> > > > originator contact information (who'd it come from)
> > > >
> > > > this way, one can always try to strive to get closer to the master.
> > > >
> > > > me? i'm not going to burn any of my 80 JBC DATs to disc until they
>can
> > > > be held in their entirety on a single disc - which means i'm waiting
>for
> > > > DVD burning to standardize or until something more sane comes along.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -david (del@adjective.com)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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