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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 23:24:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew Fogel <mfogel[at]>
Subject: End of the "JBC"

On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, Chris Camfield wrote:

> Yeah, it is a pretty big & undetailed bombshell. If Pat is going to be
> continuing with other projects, will the current JBC members be involved?
> Is this just media-related politics (new name means a new group, more
> attention... stupid media) or is Pat packing it in for releasing music?
> Where will he go from here?
Calm down folks, Calm down...Pat's been thinking about dropping the Butch
moniker since at least '92. I have an old newspaper clipping here that
mentions it. I'll go look. (Five frustrating minutes of searching later)
Drat. I can't find the last part of the article. Well it was in the St.
Catharines Standard in May 11 of '92. The really juicy part of the
article (Which is missing) basically says that he was considering
dropping the name, but he feared his loyal fans wouldn't have a clue who
he was. Remember that up until Condition Blue, he didn't even credit
himself on the album sleeves. Perhaps Pat's just looking at coming into
his own now. His past few albums have been relatively serious (though
still rife with charm and wit) and maybe it's time to put those great
drinking songs of his twenties behind him.

In the interview (what's left of it, at least) it reads:

"Many in Fish's North American cult are still hanging on his 1984
release, Bloody Nonsense ("Let 'em hang," says the Butcher), leaving
millions yet untouched by the Jazz Butcher's evolving, incisive wisdom."

A few days later, at his St. Catharines appearance at The Hideaway, he
stuck to his playlist throughout, despite many drunken bastards at the
back screaming "Play Catharine Wheels Birthday Present" To which he
replied matter of factly, "Her name is Caroline."

This also turned out to be a low point for me, a chance to meet Butch
that went horribly wrong as I drooled over his coveted steno pad of
lyrics, while trying to tell him how great an impact he had on my life.
He was sitting on the steps outside the bar, tuning his spiffy new tele.
I came off like one of those scary sycophant types and I'm sure he
arranged for extra security at his next few gigs, or while he was still
in Ontario at least. But he was really quite down to earth, and I felt
terrible about it for months, having so much respect for him and all.

> I wish we could tell Pat how much his music means to us! (I don't
> know about everyone else, but for me he is my #1 favourite musician.)
Mine too, but I don't think I want to meet him again; I'd be too embarrassed.

> Chris
> --
> Christopher Camfield ccamfield[at]
> 1996 BMath Joint CS/C&O [1998 BA Classical Studies]
> "contra negantem principia non est disputandem"
> ("there is no disputing with one who denies the first principles")

Well, I wish him well, and I'll be on the lookout for his (hopefully)
up-coming solo material.


* "I would like to fall in love again but my only hope is that love doesn't
* happen to me so often after this. I don't want to get so used to falling
* in love that I get curious to experience something more extreme -- whatever
* that may be." -- Douglas Coupland, _Life_After_God_
* MATTHEW M.J. FOGEL (mfogel[at]

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