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Live

2019
2019-02-21 Facebook Live
The Entire Performance (Facebook Live Broadcast)
2015
2015-12-12 The Playhouse Theatre , Northampton , England
The Entire Performance (Extracted from youtube video)
Credit: The Jazz Butcher Quartet
2013
2013-06-17 The Cake Shop , New York , USA
The Entire Performance
[download PDF suitable for CD] PDF suitable for CD
Credit: Lito Vales
1999
1999-09-23 Wetlands , New York , USA
The Entire Performance
Credit: Nathan
1999-09-13 Sy Klopps Studios , San Francisco , USA
She's On Drugs
Girlfriend
Soul Happy Hour
Walk With The Devil
Rough mixes of a practice session recorded by Henry Sarmiento at Sy Klopps Studios in San Francisco.
Credit: David Whittemore
1999-09-09 Troubador , Los Angeles , USA
D.R.I.N.K.
1997
1997-09-22 The Great American Music Hall , San Francisco , USA
Who Loves You Now?
La Mer
Raking Up The Leaves ( Max Eider )
Water
Just Like Bettie Page
Rough mixes of a flawless night out for Pat and Max. Recorded to 8-channel digital.
Credit: David Whittemore
1997-09-19 Bob & Anne's Wedding , Seattle , USA
Who Loves You Now?
Angels
Recorded and mastered from the live mix DAT. Pat + Max, Joe Skyward (bass), Greg Gilmore (drums)
Credit: David Whittemore
1997-09-17 Practice for Bob & Anne's Wedding , Seattle , USA
Girlfriend
Pineapple Tuesday
2nd practice prior to Bob & Anne Frangooles' wedding in Seattle, Washington. Pat + Max, Joe Skyward (bass), Greg Gilmore (drums)
Credit: David Whittemore
1997-09-16 Practice for Bob & Anne's Wedding , Seattle , USA
The Basement
1st practice prior to Bob & Anne Frangooles' wedding in Seattle, Washington. Pat + Max, Joe Skyward (bass), Greg Gilmore (drums).
Credit: David Whittemore
1994
1994-06-04 Royal Albert Hall , London , England
(Creation Records 10th anniversary mega-gig)
Jdete Pryc (The audience accosts the JBC with shouting in Czechoslovakian)
Credit: David Whittemore
1993
1993-12-23 The Racehorse , Northampton , England
The Entire Performance (EQd from Master Cassette)
Christmas gig. Pat is joined by David J.
Credit: David Whittemore
1993-10-28 The Forum , London , England
The Entire Performance (Mono, from Master Cassette)
1992
1992-06-17 The Nick , Birmingham , USA
Banter (Between-tunes - talking about the Highlander Hotel in Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-05-16 Tower Records , Chicago , USA
After Hours (Velvet Underground)
Tugboat Captain (Dean Wareham)
In-store performance.
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-05-09 El Mocambo , Toronto , Canada
Over The Rainbow (Arlen/Hamburg)
Falling In Love
Angels
Racheland
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-05-01 9:30 Club , Washington , USA
Sister Death
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-04-29 J.C. Dobbs , Philadelphia , USA
The Entire Performance (Mixed-down from master DAT)
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-04-26 Cat's Cradle , Chapel Hill , USA
Everybody's Talkin' (F. Neil)
Still & All
Susie
Girls Say Yes
She's On Drugs
Sister Death
Racheland
The "1 mile per hour Art Misery tour".
Credit: David Whittemore
1991
1991-11-14 Arena , Vienna , Austria
The Entire Performance (1st Gen Cassette)
Credit: Alexander Vrchoticky
1991-08-00 Nitronic Research Wind Tunnels , Silverlake , USA
We Are The Traffic (#1) (Pat Fish/Cole Coonce)
We Are The Traffic (#2) (Pat Fish/Cole Coonce)
"Cambodia": Pat Fish /Cole Coonce
1991-07-00 Woodhouse Studio , Leeds , England
A Matter of Time (13 Frightened Girls)
Bombed (Richard Formby)
Pedby's Grace (Pat Fish/Sumishta Brahm)
Colour Waltz (Pat Fish/Richard Formby)
Elwood (Pat Fish/Sumishta Brahm)
"The Vaguely Familiar": Pat Fish / Richard Formby / Sumishta Brahm
1989
1989-12-10 The Coach House , San Juan Capistrano , USA
The Devil Is My Friend (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Mr. Odd (West Coast '89 Cassette)
From Pat's "West Coast '89" compilation cassette (2nd generation), courtesy Andrew Brooksbank.
1989-12-09 Roxy Theatre , Los Angeles , USA
Bach Intro + Big Saturday (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Burglar Of Love (West Coast '89 Cassette)
The Best Way (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Looking For Lot 49 (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Girl-Go (West Coast '89 Cassette)
From Pat's "West Coast '89" compilation cassette (2nd generation), courtesy Andrew Brooksbank.
1989-11-28 Commodore Ballroom , Vancouver , Canada
Moscow Drug Club (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Intro + New Invention (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Chickentown (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Bicycle Kid (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Angels (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Bad Dream Lover (West Coast '89 Cassette)
Hysteria (West Coast '89 Cassette)
From Pat's "West Coast '89" compilation cassette (2nd generation), courtesy Andrew Brooksbank.
1989-11-18 Ratskeller , Madison , USA
The Entire Performance
Credit: David Whittemore
1989-11-17 Lounge Ax , Chicago , USA
Biggest, Loudest, Hairiest Group Of All (John Cale)
Moscow Drug Club (B. B. Gabor)
Partytime
Part-Time Punks (TV Personalities)
Big Saturday
Hysteria
Credit: David Whittemore
1988
1988-08-07 Town & Country Club , Kentish Town, London , England
(Doing It For The Kids)
The Entire Performance (Extracted and EQd from mixcloud)
Excerpted and pitch-corrected from Creation Records all-day recording
Credit: Creation Records
1988-05-02 Dingwall's , London , England
The Entire Performance (Extracted from youtube video)
Pulled from file originally uploaded to youtube.
Credit: FruitierThanThou
1988-04-15 Rail Theatre , Lyon , France
The Entire Performance (

This is the 217th upload of my concerts collection recorded in Lyon (France) between 1982-1990. The JAZZ BUTCHER were recorded for ZAP FM at the Rail Théatre in Lyon in spring 1988. The complete show was recorded on-the-fly with my usual way of mixing sdb outputs with 4 ambiance mikes to a HiFi video tape recorder.

For this night, I've placed 2 ambience mikes (Sennheiser MD441) on each side of the stage and another couple (Sennheiser cardoids) close to the soundboard. That night, I've a 16 tracks soundboard for recording...

I took usual sdb outputs on 2 tracks and some individual instruments outputs (from band sdb)... bass drum/snare/bass guitar/2 guitars/vocals completing the last 4 tracks with my 4 microphones. By this way, you have more than a pure sdb, and, very important, on the recording you have the effects (reverb/delay/etc...) used by the soundman. This is the main difference with the incomplete recording done on a multitracks recorder and mixed in studio afterwards (LTC 216).

So this new recording sounds as it was naturally in the venue... and the songs are in the right order... yep!! Bad souvenir!!!

At the end of the show, I saw a guy steal one of my big Sennheiser on the right side of the stage... I was at the other side of the venue... impossible to catch him. I've recorded a ton of concerts in Lyon, it was the only time I've lost something...

)
Credit: Lolive
1987
1987-03-20 Black Horse , London , England
The Entire Performance (Extracted from youtube video)
Credit: FruitierThanThou
1986
1986-12-02 Szene Wien , Vienna , Austria
The Human Jungle (Gen1, from cassette soundboard source.)
Soldiering on, one week after the exit of Max Eider .
1986-07-24 R.P.M. , Toronto , Canada
The Entire Performance (Radio broadcast, from 1st generation cassette)
Credit: David Whittemore
1986-03-13 The Cricketer's , London , England
Zombie Love (Pet Semetary - from the cassette "Various: The Holy Bible")
Credit: Kevin Carroll
1986-03-04 University , Besancon , France
The Entire Performance
Credit: Dom Genot
1985
1985-04-23 Onkel Pö , Hamburg , Germany
The Chinese Envoy (Gen1 cassette) (John Cale)
"I can see you if I take off my glasses" - Max Eider
1985-03-24 Kolingsborg , Stockholm , Sweden
The Entire Performance (Gen2 Cassette)

Interviews

2018
2018-12-09 "PAT FISH: EARLY DAYS TO JAZZ BUTCHER'S FIRST RELEASE 'IN BATH OF BACON'"
The Interview
Credit: FrehcnSpurs1
2018-07-03 "The Watt From Pedro Show" podcast - Owen Jones
The Interview
Excerpted from the musician-to-musician podcasts by Mike Watt (of The Minutemen) speaking with Owen Jones (via Skype). Mostly "Shakespeare and The Bible", and some passing Jazz Butcher commentary.
Credit: Mike Watt
2017
2017-06-12 Norwich Radio/C86 Interview
The Interview
Excerpted from radio broadcast. Topics: The Smiths, early history, La Mer , playing the sax, David E. Barker
Credit: David Eastaugh
2017-03-20 "Near Perfect Pitch" podcast #35
The Interview
Excerpted from @NearPerfPitch's podcast #35. Dara Mottahed and Pat (via Skype) catch up on happenings since the previous podcast.
Credit: Dara Mottahed
2016
2016-05-09 "Near Perfect Pitch" podcast #1
The Interview
Excerpted from @NearPerfPitch's inaugural podcast. Dara Mottahed and Pat (via Skype) chat about recent band history. And football.
Credit: Dara Mottahed
2014
2014-11-12 RTVE - Radio Televisión Española - Radio 3 with Julio Ruiz , Madrid , Spain
(Live on the air with Julio Ruiz)
The Interview
Melanie Hargreaves' Father's Jaguar
From interview session with Julio Ruiz.
1993
1993-02-15 French National Radio , Paris , France
The Interview (In French, from Gen1 Cassette)
1992
1992-06-26 WHPK , Chicago , USA
The Interview
Excerpts
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-05-16 WNUR , Chicago , USA
The Interview (Master recording. College radio interview with a couple of live tunes)
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-05-06 CBC , Montreal , Canada
The Interview
Credit: Brent Brambury
1992-04-26 WXYC , Chapel Hill , USA
The Interview
Biggest, Loudest, Hairiest Group Of All (John Cale)
A Butcher acoustic performance of the John Cale tune.
Credit: David Whittemore
1992-04-25 WRAS , Atlanta , USA
The Interview (Gen 1 Cassette. Includes the 'Sydney Meats Story')
Credit: David Whittemore
1990
1990-11-24 KCRW , Santa Monica , USA
Crocodile Tears And The Velvet Cosh (David J.)
The Chinese Envoy (John Cale)
Partytime
From Deirdre O'Donoghue's SNAP program on KCRW, Santa Monica, CA. Recorded by Martin Stebbing (Rev. Botus Whiteblood Fleming) . Pat and Alex duets with lots of chatter.
1990-11-19 KTBS , Austin , USA
The Interview
Credit: Robert Jacob
1989
1989-11-19 Pat Fish , Milwaukee , USA
Topic: Robyn Hitchcock
Topic: David J's "The Party's Over"
During The Milwaukee Interview Pat muses on being compared to Robyn Hitchcock, and talks about David J.
Credit: Brian Kelly/David Whittemore
1989-07-01 "On The Road" - CBC featurette
The Interview
While en-route to 1989 Germany dates, Pat Fish answers "Big Questions" for CBC radio listeners.
Credit: Dana Mottahead (Gen0 cassette of FM broadcast)
1986
1986-07-18 Background Noise Productions
The Interview
Pat Fish & Max Eider in Washington, DC the night of the Jazz Butcher's show at the 9:30 Club.

Background Noise Productions is: John Collins, Steve Yegelwel, Andy Schoengold, Jim Black, and Jimmy Mitchell

Well John, thanks for that rather strange and touching experience, which carried me back to a time when we were largely happy if permanently pissed. It says much for our dedication to our art that we sound so pleased to be drinking Heineken. But who the hell is that posh bloke Eider and where did he get that accent? Also you have made me catch a few bars of some tracks I've been assiduously avoiding for the last 30 years or so. But thanks all the same for the memory and indeed the Heineken.
Credit: Max Eider 2017-10-01 (Sunday, 1st of October 2017 - 4 years 17 days ago)

Credit: Background Noise Productions

Wilson
November, 2005 Demo

Recorded at Premier Studio

Buffalo Sniper
Police Chief
April, 2003 Demo

Recorded at Notepad, NW10 by Andy Parker. Produced by Donald Ross Skinner. All tunes conceived, devised & assembled by Wilson. Tracks contain elements of everything.

Istanbul Connection
Quality People
2002 Demo

Recorded by MC Bot on the Roland VS-1800 at Subsound, NN1 during 2001 and 2002. The words to "Play It All Night Long" are by Warren Zevon. Everything else is original pirate material. Increase the peace.

Quality People
Istanbul Connection
Hippy Shit
Play It All Night Long
Burn, Hollywood, Burn
Dark Agenda

Sumosonic
Come, Friendly Spacemen
This is fun. Here's the midi file for Come, Friendly Spacemen
"Audio Aquatic" Demo

Credit: Andrew Brooksbank
"Audio Aquatic" was an early working name for Sumosonic. Most tracks from this tape are the same as the later "Demo Cassette".
Come, Friendly Spacemen
This is an "extended" version, with approximately 90 seconds more beat breaks.
Demo Cassette

Unlike the Creation "This Is Sumo" release, Pat sings lead on all tracks.

Come, Friendly Spacemen
Monks Of Kung Fu
God's Green Earth
Business And Work
Destroy All Monsters
Stupid
Everything Is Wonderful
Fern Schnell Gut
Cat's Life
My Ultimate Baby
We Are The Traffic
Sputnik

Black Eg
1994
1994-06-01 The Sound Shaft , London , England
The Entire Performance

Black Eg's Live Debut!

Credit: David Whittemore
1993
1993-08-20 l'esprit formidable (demo tape) , Northampton , England
After Vietnam (Black Eg demo)
Drugs Rumble #1 (Black Eg demo)
Bel Air (Black Eg demo)
Mogadon (Black Eg demo)
Lulu's Dog (Black Eg demo)
No Answer (In Cambodia) (Black Eg demo)
I Will Survive (Black Eg demo)
Sexual Taboos (Black Eg demo)
La Rage Le Sarcasme Et La Betise Humaine (Black Eg demo)
After Vietnam (Ambient Mix)
Tonight You Belong To Me (Black Eg demo)
1992
1992-09-15 Peter Murphy (demo tape) , Northampton , England
Do Ya Wanna? (Black Eg demo)
Our Friends The Filth (Black Eg demo)
Coney Island Nightmare (Black Eg demo)
Ezcsta (Black Eg demo)
L.A. Stories (gameboy mix)
The Hypnotic Eye (Black Eg demo)
L.A. Stories (metal mix)
1992-06-26 WHPK , Chicago , USA
The Interview
Excerpts
Credit: David Whittemore

Etc

JBC Rarities
Tracks that appeared on early compilations and singles.
Christmas With The Pygmies
From Christmas With The Pygmies (1985)
Affection (Jonathan Richman)
From VA: Shadow And Light (1984).
Recorded May 1983, "Cak Bag session", Sketch Studio, Northampton
Temptation Inside Your Heart (Velvet Underground)
From VA: Another Spark (1984).
Recorded from the May 1983, "Cak Bag session", Sketch Studio, Northampton
May I (Kevin Ayes)
From Speedy Gonzalez (1987)
La Mer
From the 2012 Last of the Gentleman Adventurers recording session (unreleased)
Poor Spy
Unreleased.
Recorded May 1983, "Cak Bag session", Sketch Studio, Northampton
Chinese Envoy (John Cale)
From VA: What A Nice Way To Turn Seventeen #2 (1983)
The Hobbu Song (Robert Goodman)
Guest Pass 2000
Cowgirl Fever
Marnie 12" single B-side (1984)
Vodka Girls
From VA: Abus Dangereux #21 (1994)
"Cult Of The Basement" rough mixes and alt takes
Excellent!
King Tut
Pineapple Tuesday
Fertiliser (Yes, Mantor)
Girl-Go
The Onion Field
Sister Death

Provided by Martin Stebbing (Rev. Botus Whiteblood Fleming) , the session engineer.

Fan Tribute Discs - c. 2000
Downloadable high-quality MP3s of Jazz Butcher songs as covered by the musician/fans of the jbc mailing list and elsewhere. All tracks with annotation by the Butcher.
The Vaguely Familiar
Demo tracks from the July 1991 Pat Fish , Richard Formby , and Sumishta Brahm collaboration.
A Matter Of Time
Bombed
Pedby's Grace
Colour Waltz
Elwood
Cambodia
Demo tracks from the August 1991 Pat Fish and Cole Coonce collaboration.
We Are The Traffic (#1)
We Are The Traffic (#2)
Visitor Feedback
Visitors' comments for this page [Add your own]
Tom hall
Hi . My dad is brian wood . He took the photos on the second album . Currently living in Denver Colorado. I have great memories with tom and diane . And Jake the dog . Mid seventies. I flew back . For the memorial in 03 . I have few old pics .
Nick wood denver 10Oct2020 2:44 PM
Peeking over the wall from the other side
Fish friendly vegan Was here. A good time was had by all. Thank you for all the goods in my ear.
Jack Goloff, Fort Lauderdale 11Jun2018 3:29 PM
All The Sounds
This is wonderful. Thank you for posting.
Doc 4May2017 10:33 AM
tunage missing
hi, greatly appreciate the archival music. most is nowhere to be found. request zombie love/pet semetary from the 13Mar1986 cricketers gig! also request the pat-demo of regrets of a spaceman. too-bad nowhere to be heard
a prado, frozen desert 24Jan2015 2:57 PM
Manhattan Cake Shop show
Just saw that the Cake Shop show was made available for download. Thanks for being both incredibly talented and impossibly generous
Reed Soper, USA 24Oct2013 6:36 PM
Harry
Yes, Emma. Remember him fondly.
Pat x
pat fish, nn1 2Apr2013 5:20 AM
Stephen Harry harris
Hey pay
Reading through my brothers diaries and knowing he mentions the tour in the states etc question is do u remember Stephen Harry Harris
Little sister 31Mar2013 3:25 PM
Kizzy
These are great and are all on my iPod etc. Is there any chance of getting any of the live stuff with Kizzy on here? I love that era, but none of the live stuff I have is with him.
DE 8Jan2013 5:25 PM
Vienna Song
I would love to get a download of the Vienna Song, I've it on vinyl, which is awesome, but digital would be great! Any ideas?
David in Santa Barbara 24Jun2012 1:36 PM
I want to buy Big Questions
Hey! I have been trying to buy Big Questions for over a decade. I had a recording of it, that I listened to incessantly, for a whole year while living in Japan in the early 90's. Then I lost it! Please tell me how I can buy another copy!
Sean, California 15Nov2010 3:25 PM
just another note to say cheers
Dear Sir,
I cant help it but I feel that I have to write again to say thankyou. I have made a cd of the songs available on this site for my car and its great but I would rather pay for an official cd from yourself. Any chance that you might release some more of your material? Maybe a multi cd pack with EVERYTHING!! Interviews, comments, out-takes. Could we not order from this site? Cheers again.
kev in kent 22Sep2009 10:39 AM
Mind Like a Playground..
Hey Pat,
I contacted you a while back with a JBC query and you personally invited me to a gig, which was an amazing thing to do - thanks for that. Unfortunately, I couldn't go, I was moving house, but I have always remembered the gesture.
I was wondering how would I get hold of releases these days? I'd rather buy them direct from JBC HQ than put the money into the hands of some squalid E-Bay shop merchant. Know what I mean?
Stevie Disco Cardiff 5May2009 9:59 AM
Love ya
Hey...last comment dates from january...that still reflects your "popularity"...but I have to say: I'm VERY astonished to see you're still here..and it's a shame you guys do gigs that seldom nowadays...but back in those days, during the 80s & 90s too you were one of the really great underground acts and kinda like a part of the soundtrack for my life at that time. I just discovered this site while "ripping" some old vinyl for my MP3-archive...and have to say: GODD TO SEE YOU'RE STILL HERE :-) Keep on doing whatever you do!

Best regards
Thomas, near Cologne 21Jul2008 1:22 PM
i love your music
OMFG I can't believe your music is here. Jazz Butcher had a big impact on me in the 80s/early 90s, and I'd put your music up there, in terms of overall quality, with the Smiths and Style Council. I still have all the LPs, so I don't feel bad about d/l MP3s here. :)

I know it sounds daft but your ironic sense of humour makes me think of Ricky Gervais, either in The Office or Extras. Don't know why.

Have a great day!
Darcy K, Toronto/Detroit 22Jan2008 8:22 AM
My Space -Picture
Pat,

I just noticed that the snapshot you've chosen for your myspace space was clicked by none other than myself. Great memories of a Chicago boy in NYC to see what was billed as the JBC's swan song. I'm glad it wasn't. Keep on keepin' on...
Mike 25Apr2007 9:01 PM
vids
Have my eyes gone all wonky or have the videos disappeared? I thought I would drop by this morning and start my day with a little "Girl Go" visual. No go. Oh well, we will make up for it with all of Basement via the iPod. That will get you going more proper than a bowl of wheaties. I just had a visual of The JBC on a Wheaties box. More collectable than the Mary Lou Retton!
PSoul, San Gabriel, CA 29Oct2006 6:44 AM
In Bath of Bacon
The comment "...VERY early eighties..." does not mean that In Bath of Bacon was not a great album! If there is no hope of re-releasing this masterpiece can you please make it available for download? I purchased "Draining the Glass" because there are two songs from this album. Not enough though, I MUST HAVE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!

Kittens are only six inches tall...
Sacramento, CA. USofA 4Sep2005 6:20 PM
good old times
i haven't come across the jazz butcher for quiet a long time. while surfing around i visited jazzbutcher.com today for the first time.

congratulations, great and informative website.

and the generous audio downloads are marvellous. the music makes me feel good and will accompany we not only for today. later i will get out my old vinyl recordings and have more fun with the jazz butcher and max eider.
ratingen, germany 3Aug2005 1:59 AM
Thanks!
Thanks for this great site! The Jazz Butcher rulez! And of course: Thanks for the great music!
Hamburg, Germany 19Jul2005 3:40 PM
I am so glad I found this!
Around 1990 I was introduced to the Conspiracy
by my friend iggi. After plying my ears with
the wonders of A Scandal in Bohemia and
Fiscotheque, he informed me of the approaching
presence of the Butcher himself!

We caught up with the Cult of the Basement at (I
believe) the Diamond Club in Toronto, and thanks
to iggi's conversations with David Whittemore,
ended up backstage to greet Mr. Fish! I wish I
could go on about what a fabulous evening it
was, but a certain roadie was in charge of
drinks, and my memory grew dim.

Watching a dozen wind-up monsters roam the stage
was a highlight for me... Thanks so much for the
songs - it has been a while since I've listened
and I was at once transported to a remarkable
place. I enjoyed listening to the recording
from Soundshaft immensely today.
Philadelphia, PA 26May2005 3:56 PM
hippies love egypt
I'm sorry Pat but men with without women turn into monsters, especially at your ripe old age. I thought I knew what a good band was and what good songwriting was until I heard jbc...if i must admit how i really feel. I suppose my envy has turned into sour jealousy. But please dont take me quite so seriously. I never have. Love ya man. Peace and Love Flowerchild.
encinitas, USofA 20May2005 1:13 AM
Questions for anonymous idiot
What's elitist about promoting free concerts and giving away free music downloads? Could there possibly be an argument for your fucking off with your hippie shit? You know, I'm almost certain that there is...
NN1 28Apr2005 7:00 AM
typical
wow. now that inquiry about you taking checks was a complete joke. I wouldnt send you one anyways. What do I care about the bands you promote in CA? That was'nt my question. And as 80's as your drums and saxophone may sound Im gonna have to say you were a bit ahead of your time. It has'nt even come yet....settle down. Elitist bastards....
27Apr2005 6:42 AM
great site
Wow,
This site is a real treasure....all this hard to find music for a mouse click. A true gift! Thanks a million.
SF, USofA 26Apr2005 5:35 PM
cool site
This is a great site for long-time fans. I love all the free mp3s and song notes. It makes me feel like the site and band are more focused on creation than business.

That said, I'm curious how it's doing, business-wise. Has it paid for itself? How would you measure site-derived earnings?

What if 90% of the site's visitors already own most or all of the JBC albums? How can the site make money off of them (us) in order to support itself? Through gig advertisements? Or is the site dependent upon sales from the (say) 10% of visitors who are JBC newbies?

It's a great site, fan-wise. I love it! I'm just curious how effective it is business-wise. It'd be great to find out if (and how) it pays off in both areas...

Even if it doesn't, it's still awesome, and I'm grateful to everyone involved in creating and maintaining it!

Travis
(a loyal JBC fan since 1986)
Bellingham, WA 30Mar2005 2:10 PM
In defense of he who needs no defending
Sometimes the trolls and fools who have secured access to the library computer reveal themselves and give us all a quaint laugh.

The comments made about the site being full of cobwebs reveal what is really going on here. Those of us who enjoy the music are scrounging everywhere to find it/buy it/save it/archive it/ and listen to it. You can go on Ebay, GEMM, Amazon.com or wherever you like and there is incredible demand and competition for the music that was made.

The music is the thing. Get the songs, get the vinyl, get it all and listen to it. The Butcher made it, someone gave him beer money for it, they slapped it into the odd shop in miserable small quantities, and now we happily pay for it when someone decides to auction it off. Don't crap all over him because of that. Nostalgia? Nah. Appreciation? Yes. A real fan is appreciative. This real fan wishes he could go to the shows.

If the Butcher wants to put out something new, we'll get that too and celebrate. All this crap about how your "great" record store doesn't have JBC stuff proves your own ignorance--we swept in years ago like ninjas and bought it all up while you were shoving REO Speedwagon down your pants.
Jason / Laurel, MD 29Mar2005 9:20 AM
The only cobwebs are between your ears
This is not a commercial site devoted to flogging twenty-year-old indie records. We do not take checks or anything else.

This is a site about music and what I (a minor semi-pro musician) am doing now. If you condescend to look at the main page, you will find that to be spending most all my time promoting live music (including artists from your home State), composing and performing. Not in Encinitas, Ca, though, as I have no wish to be disappeared by your thought police.

If you want to relive the eighties, there are plenty of bands around right now who will be only too happy to help. Try the Departure, or if you like it really wooshti, The Bravery.
Now fuck off.

Pat xxx
NN1 27Mar2005 6:48 PM
this site is full of cobwebs. . .
Does anyone ever look at this site anymore? What's really goin' on here? I find it beyond absurd that even the "great" record store we have here(Lou's) has no more than 3 jbc cds to choose from, that of which are reissued compilations. Is it just me or is there really a "conspiracy" going on here and does it make perfect sense if any at all?? Im sick to my stomach. Upload everything you ever recorded to this website Pat. You take checks right?
Encinitas.Ca USofA 26Mar2005 5:16 PM
JODUUUH
We Love You AJAX
My lovely AJAX
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You never noticed
How much I love you
Please don't take
My Ajax away
14Jul2004 12:23 PM
pat fish
Girl friend sick stop loves jbc stop shes fresh out of infirmary stop need to know tour pub dates
in ENGLAND or j.B.C. CANADA stop after Aug. stop
Yours truly 6 show strung out vancouver
jbc / hitchcock groupies .
vancouver j.B.C 26Jun2004 3:14 PM
are you guys ever coming back to vancouver?
you guys
rock,its true.me and my friends love to get all fucked up and listen to the
conspiracy.then we talk about all kinds o shit,like how we arent as good
a band but we will continue ,inspired by the butcher sounds and
styles.last time i saw you live ,i was in seattle years ago.it was at the
crocodile,i was with weird people i dont talk to anymore and my best bud
,who sorta plays lead around my stuff,anyway i havent been back to the
states since,cause its hard to get good drugs in seattle,the weed suks
etc.i wonder if pat has the same girlfriend that he did in seattle ? she
seemed a likeable person ,i listened in on a conversation my friend had
with her before the show.he was trying to organize a show in vancouver,i
am sure she must have mentioned it...so there you are ,a little bit of
bullshit on a friday night,i got nothing better to do ,since i am working
the night shift ,i am the driver at an escort agency,dont ask ,its just the
way it went things are crazy here at the office tonight ,its a fullmoon so
i imagine absolute weirdness gotta go ,so keep up the good work ,i will
always buy youre records at full price and will continue to promote the
jbc at every opportunity,especially at work ,where all the hookers now
listen to partytime and have to leave their radiohead and whitestripes
at the door.
british columbia,canada 8Nov2003 12:12 AM
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I like too much this band and the page is very nice, information and videos, I never saw videos of jbc.
nine butchers for you, and thanks
La Plata, Argentina 2Oct2003 6:44 PM
A stopping off point in the search for good music
As a ph.D researcher of popular music, and fan of the Blue Aeroplanes (who make my task difficult, yet stimulating), I discovered this website. What a gem! A case of 'Music Hall meets Rock'n'Roll'. I'm now in the process of obtaining the back catalogue (all in the name of research I might add!). I may even make my way to Northampton for the Wilson gig in late July if I can find decent accommodation for an overnight stay. I've revisited 'Rough Music' (I won't go into the historical meaning) to listen out for Pat (tremelo) Fish. 'A Map Below' stands out. Hey, but what do I know? I'm just an ageing hippie musician with a studio who writes about music. In the 'sponsored walk of life' I just give out the bottled water!
London (UK) 12Jul2003 3:36 PM
Scandal in Bohemia / Sex and Travel two-fer cd
Hello butcher fans!

I found an extra copy of the Scandal in Bohemia / Sex and travel two-fer cd. It has some surface scratches but play perfectly (I tried it on several machines) It took me ten years to find the first copy and I know how frustrating it was trying to find it the first time. If anybody has any tasty rare things or excellent quality live recordings I'd love to trade. I could be persuaded to sell it as well.

Cheers

Rich
Rich E P 24Dec2001 2:57 PM