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RE: [JBC] CD duplication is not ok

From: Jim Gibbin <>
Date: Mon 23 Aug 1999 - 14:24:32 PDT

NO ONE is making ANY money off old JBC stuff, except as artifacts on eBay, yet people still get off on copyright law. Sounds kinda naive to me. But eBay trading -- remember they are "real" products of a defunct label, not bootlegs-- does clearly establish once and for all that there is a solid market for this great material well beyond the purview of this list. Arlo Guthrie comes to mind as an artist who re-acquired his own rights under his own label and puts out a disc & does a gig now and then. Now, maybe if Pat, genius though he be, would get off the fucking barstool.......

regards, Jim

>From: Rick Karr <>
>To: "'David Whittemore'" <>,
>Subject: RE: [JBC] CD duplication is not ok
>Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:22:44 -0400
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Kudos to David for putting his foot down. The level of naivete on this list
>occasional appalls me -- I know we feel like Pat is _ours_, but he in fact
>isn't. Royalties are not optional. What's being proposed is illegal, and a
>further affront to an artist whose work has failed to receive support from
>the industry.
>On another topic: David, is it possible to prefix all list subject lines
>with [JBC] as yours do? It'd be helpful.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Whittemore []
>Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 13:59
>Subject: [JBC] CD duplication is not ok
>so, the issue is not that "making copies of CDs takes nothing
>out of pat's pocket"..
>the issue is that this desire to fill-out our CD collections does
>nothing to attempt to PUT money into the artist's pocket.
>admit it or not, but by distributing the music in any manner not
>approved in contract by the artist, you are ripping him off.
>i have spoken with pat on this in the past. we were on the topic
>of MP3 trading, and the above basically reflects his line - without
>a protocol in place to provide for artist payments, then he considers
>the process bootlegging and will act to cease it. this is his livelihood,
>plain and simple.
>that known - please refrain from discussing the duplication and distribution
>of CDs on this mailing list.
>sorry to be a hardass.
>-david (
>700w st c m dj ct v c m nc nv n nt c m htdb rg m r
>c rcl n c rg s d sw p c m s m s n c c m xp ll n8 c m
>mustn't offend
Received on Mon Aug 23 14:41 PDT 1999

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