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Re: [JBC] live CDRs, a protocol proposal

From: Andreas Ott <>
Date: Thu 02 May 2002 - 11:19:58 PDT


absolutely into this , shn is a cool thing for trees like this - wouldnt mind to throw in some low gens and also analog audience masters and maybe a DAT audience master into the shn tree .

also if anyone interested can make a mpg of a rare german TV appearance

At 11:13 02.05.2002 -0700, Glen Davies wrote:
>Apologies to David, the first time I sent this, I just hit reply and only
>sent it to him.
>I absolutely agree with David here. If at all possible, it is best to go
>from a digital source like DAT to wave via an optical cable into a good
>sound card that doesn't resample input (on a computer) or to a cdr recorder.
>Maybe we should hold off on starting to trade around cdrs that were mastered
>from cassettes. Someday, we all hope, David will be able to 'release the
>vault' as it were (hopefully as shns), and then we'd all need to start
>replacing our cassette generation copies.
>I guess I've just be jonesing for some of the older shows and David's
>probably the only one who was able to capture those gems on a DAT instead of
>a walkman held up in the audience.
>Ideally, IMO, what would work best and easiest, is if the best known copy
>around is converted to shn format (a lossless compression format) and then
>we could ftp shn files with each other. That way there is no generational
>loss, everyone has an exact clone of the original (shn files have check
>sums), and people can do whatever the hell they like with them ... i.e.
>convert and burn them to cdr or dvdr or play them directly with shnamp.
>This isn't exactly a new idea, it's exactly what we've been doing with jam
>band shows (Dead, Phish, Moe, MMW, Dave Mathews, etc.) and Pink Floyd shows
>for the last several years. Everyone gets a clone where we know everything
>from what mics, DAT machine, cable, soundcard, editing program, etc. to who
>taped the show in the first place.
>Any thoughts on this idea.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Whittemore" <>
> > please, for the love of the music, if you do this, be SURE to specify:
> >
> > generation (master clone, gen 1, gen 2, gen X, unknown)
> > processing (dry, EQ, etc)
> > originator contact information (who'd it come from)
> >
> > this way, one can always try to strive to get closer to the master.
> >
> > me? i'm not going to burn any of my 80 JBC DATs to disc until they can
> > be held in their entirety on a single disc - which means i'm waiting for
> > DVD burning to standardize or until something more sane comes along.
> >
> > --
> > -david (
> >
Received on Thu, 02 May 2002 20:19:58 +0200

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