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Re: Conditioning

From: Doug English <>
Date: Thu 21 Mar 2002 - 15:21:29 PST

I never can decide which I like better. Right now I think I prefer "Big Return," simply because it was many years before I actually ever even heard that version.

BTW, if that's the only version of it you have (with the pop), let me know and I'll be happy to tape it for you (since there really seems to be no other way to get that version anymore).


>From: Miles Goosens <>
>Subject: Re: Conditioning
>Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:39:54 -0600
>At 02:05 PM 3/21/2002 +0000, Doug English wrote:
> >You are so right about Harlan, except I'd put it behind Southern Mark
> >and The Human Jungle, and well ahead of Soul Happy Hour. With all due
> >respect to Max and the person who said the albums without him aren't as
> >good: Condition Blue is a great album that does not suffer from Max's
> >absence in the slightest, in my humble OPINION.
>Agreed. Do I love Max? Yes, I do. Would it have been cool if he had
>continued in the JBC through the late '80s and early '90s? Sure. Is Max
>supremely talented and one of the best players I've ever seen or
>heard? You betcha!
>But jeezus folks, the guitar playing on things like CULT OF THE BASEMENT
>and CONDITION BLUE is just out of this world, in large part thanks to the
>godlike Alex Lee. If you think they're lesser albums (I don't, but bear
>with me as I play Devil's Paralegal for a sentence), seems like the blame
>would be better placed on Pat's writing, rather than ascribing it to the
>absence of Max.
>And speaking of "Southern Mark Smith" -- I *strongly* prefer the "original"
>version on the "Real Men" 12" (and on BLOODY NONSENSE) to the "Big Return"
>take. I take it that the band and/or their anthologizers prefer it the
>other way, since it's the "Big Return" version that's on A SCANDAL IN
>BOHEMIA, DRAINING THE GLASS, and probably a dozen other anthologies, which
>I find doubly tragic since my BLOODY NONSENSE vinyl has a big, probably
>permanent POP! in the first few bars. Anyone else share my preference?

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